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Citizens comment on un-American affairs - A little less than a happy high
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Citizens comment on un-American affairs
Today on the train, I actually heard someone say "If you hate America so much, why don't you just leave?"

For his sake, I pointed out that this really is something of an empty retort because it's really just not that easy. Assuming you can find a country that wants you, which is usually a function of your boasting highly sought-after skills or a great deal of money and preferably both, there's the small matter that the US tends not to recognize a citizen's act of renouncing citizenship.

He had no idea how to respond.
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komos From: komos Date: November 22nd, 2004 12:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
The job thing is generally the stumbling block when you consider repatriating. You end up with the dilemma of needing to have the government's permission to work and needing to have work before getting the government's permission. Once that hurdle's cleared, you're still considered an American citizen. You can apply for Canadian citizenship only after four years of residency, IIRC.

He was all of 20 years old, and I don't know that he was a flaming idiot. Instead, I think someone jammed a jingo stick up his ass.
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komos From: komos Date: November 22nd, 2004 02:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
Man, you talk about one stick in relation to a ass, and suddenly we get all homo-erotic. Jeez. ;)

Yeah, a transfer to our Montreal branch is probably not in the cards any time soon. I think that's a little to expansionistic, even for this administration.
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komos From: komos Date: November 23rd, 2004 01:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
Damn, North Korea still hasn't made the list?
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komos From: komos Date: November 23rd, 2004 01:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oh those French, with their opinions and their stinky cheese...
pipibluestockin From: pipibluestockin Date: November 22nd, 2004 12:54 pm (UTC) (Link)
In O'Keefe's case, there is no such thing as a fully retired and discharged soldier (even if his circumstances were "less than honourable").

There is not a nation on the planet which does not reserve the right to reactivate the active duty status of former military personnel - at which point they then become subject military law.

Just because the US Army does not want him underfoot does not mean that they want anybody else to have access to him either.

On the other hand why keep issuing him with an exit visa if he is just going to keep being publically embarrasing in another country?

Don't mind me - I do like you silencing the bus with the counter argument. That appeals to my sense of humour.
komos From: komos Date: November 22nd, 2004 01:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
...which is something the recruiters don't take pains to inform you of when they get you to sign on to "earn money for college." It's there in the small print, to be sure, but I'm guessing there are a lot of folks who did the "one weekend a month" thing who are very disappointed about being sent to the Gulf now.

Incidentally, they keep letting Dubya go abroad, too. No accounting for it, I guess. ;)

pipibluestockin From: pipibluestockin Date: November 22nd, 2004 03:39 pm (UTC) (Link)
As for letting him go to Chile for fancy dress pagent excuse me, summit - somebody just wanted to see if you could be made to look sillier ;)
pipibluestockin From: pipibluestockin Date: November 22nd, 2004 03:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
Ack!

There is a small typo in the line above - it should read as "somebody just wanted to see if *he* could be made to look sillier"

komos From: komos Date: November 23rd, 2004 04:53 am (UTC) (Link)
"You" as in "America" worked pretty well for me. It's really pretty accurate, even. ^_^
pipibluestockin From: pipibluestockin Date: November 23rd, 2004 01:08 pm (UTC) (Link)
Phew! I just wanted to avoid the good ol' personal attack misunderstanding.
komos From: komos Date: November 23rd, 2004 01:15 pm (UTC) (Link)
I do my best to give the benefit of the doubt wherever possible. ^_^
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