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Bloody hell
On some level, I wish I hadn’t seen this. One class? The work is as good as my absolute best at this point. Of course, it’s managed to fire up all of the residual doubts and fears over whether I’m just learning the technical aspects of a craft (and slowly, no less) without having any real artistic voice. I want voice. Very badly.

So the reminders come that there are a number of factors at work here, and that ultimately, comparison is useless since it doesn’t really speak to where I’m at and what my experience is. I’ll get over it, but damn...
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From: basha Date: April 30th, 2004 06:39 am (UTC) (Link)
Don't get down on your work! You're creating beautiful things. Plus, come on, how many people would turn something into "partially used roll of toilet paper" and have it turn out lovely?

Don't get discouraged! You're doing something you love, and creating wonderful things as a result.

komos From: komos Date: April 30th, 2004 07:18 am (UTC) (Link)
Darrell and I were laughing about MUTPR1 when I was talking about my idea for the glaze. I'm having fun. No worries.
From: pipibluestockin Date: April 30th, 2004 06:40 am (UTC) (Link)
One class?

(At the risk of sounding like an Australian cultural stereotype...)

He/She is lying through their bloody arse.

Sorry... :/

It takes long hours to get the motor skills for throwing stuff on a wheel. Ditto (possibly) for learning the glaze.

Just how much assistance was given by these helpful people?

(Yes, I too am consumed with envy).

It all boils down to what is most interesting to you:

- The journey (creation, or the getting there)

- or the "Piece" (journey's end)

If the journey is your satisfaction, then ignore what you see in the pictures above - that is a false path.

komos From: komos Date: April 30th, 2004 07:16 am (UTC) (Link)

Pieces are just part of the process

To be fair, the classes at Mudflat are 14 weeks as opposed to the 7-8 I get at BCAE, and I'm guessing the amount of time this person put in at 3-5 times per week is comparable to the time I've spent in my studio.

Like I said, the feeling will pass. I'm just a little jealous, is all.
From: pipibluestockin Date: April 30th, 2004 07:26 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Pieces are just part of the process

If it is any consolation - the pieces are consciously "classic" (or arty if you prefer).

If you were to walk around and art and craft show or gallery - you would come across endless pieces that look similar.

The real charm is in the truly unique pieces. You are familiar with Japanese tea bowls yet?

Initially they look rough formed and blobby - and then you take a second look.

Quite a different effect, I am sure you will agree from the perfection and yet ultimately unsatifying experience of the pieces you were refering to.
komos From: komos Date: April 30th, 2004 07:35 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm actually a big fan of Shino and Oribe ware, and I really want to get somewhere I can do wood-firing.

I'm still at a point where I'm going for uniformity and predictability, just out of interest of developing my skills. I do know what you're talking about, though. Most walk-throughs at arts fairs will have plenty of booths selling ceramics, but most of the work never actually moves beyond the level of "crafty." I can only get excited when I come across someone who's really pushing the envelope with their own vocabulary.
From: pipibluestockin Date: April 30th, 2004 07:53 am (UTC) (Link)

*broad grin*

You know the difference between "arty" and "crafty".

Develop your own language I say.
komos From: komos Date: April 30th, 2004 09:26 am (UTC) (Link)
At least I hope so. ^_^

I'll be working on that. Thanks.
sweetchariot From: sweetchariot Date: April 30th, 2004 06:53 am (UTC) (Link)
i let "all those people who can just pick up an instrument and play" deter me from continuing my own process with the guitar. i wish hadn't. i need the outlet. i suspect you do too.
komos From: komos Date: April 30th, 2004 07:21 am (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, I lost the violin for similar reasons.

And you're right... the outlet is very important. I came to LJ for an outlet and that eventually led (through an outlandishly convoluted path) to going back to the wheelhead. I have no idea what happens next.
cosmicserpent From: cosmicserpent Date: April 30th, 2004 07:05 am (UTC) (Link)
Don't compare or contrast your work to others; that's not why you do this. Remember that.
komos From: komos Date: April 30th, 2004 07:24 am (UTC) (Link)
It can from time to time be useful, just so long as it's with a mind towards growth. Ideally, I can learn something from folks who are better or at least different than me.

It's easier to follow that some days than others. I'll get by.
futurenurselady From: futurenurselady Date: April 30th, 2004 07:20 am (UTC) (Link)

Remember This

Some people are certainly good at things from day one. It doesn't mean they will ever improve more than that. It's easy to pick something up, but harder to keep going at it.

Don't forget that it's more important to be the best you that you can be than to try to be the best "them" that you can be. Hold yourself to your own standards only, and you will never be disappointed.
komos From: komos Date: April 30th, 2004 07:30 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Remember This

I'm finding that letting go of standards in general is a good thing. Preconception slants experience.
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komos From: komos Date: April 30th, 2004 07:38 am (UTC) (Link)
There is that, of course, though I'm guessing that I'll move increasingly towards zeal if I manage to find my way to MassArt. I'm guessing that the fun will still be there, but there's a deep, underlying need to do this.

Embroidery? Neat.
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komos From: komos Date: April 30th, 2004 09:26 am (UTC) (Link)
I like to bat it with my paws.
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komos From: komos Date: May 3rd, 2004 05:05 am (UTC) (Link)
How else would I eat my pomegranate?
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komos From: komos Date: April 30th, 2004 09:29 am (UTC) (Link)
You know, there are times when I don't feel like am at all different than I was when I was about 5.

And thanks... I appreciate it.
_meej_ From: _meej_ Date: April 30th, 2004 10:25 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm pretty sure you're taller.

And I'm guessing you weren't as good at ceramics or zymurgy when you were 5, either. (Both of which continually impress me.)

Not to say you don't have other strengths. It's just that the image of a 5-year-old making beer and sake jars amuses me to no end. (The 5-year-old Peter in my brain is wearing the Hat of Authority.)
komos From: komos Date: May 3rd, 2004 05:06 am (UTC) (Link)
I think anyone at any age in the hat of authority is pretty amusing.

'Course, at age 5, it probably would have fit.
archanglrobriel From: archanglrobriel Date: April 30th, 2004 08:20 am (UTC) (Link)
I am -so- right there with you on this one. Soren and I constantly feel like we're having to reinvent the wheel with most of this stuff, since I only took one ceramics class wayyyy back in high school and he's never taken one. Glazes continue to confound us. *sigh*
But y'know, with regard to finding the artistic voice - I'm trying to find my artistic voice too, so I set myself a bit of a study on the issue and from what I'm seeing and reading etc. finding your artistic voice just takes a lot of time and a lot of pieces. You have to just crank out work for a couple of years before an authentic voice emerges. Or in the words of Diego Rivera - you have to work until you have thoroughly exised and purged all the influences of other artists from your soul, and only then can your true voice manifest itself.
*grin*
So I guess art school has been the ultimate binge/purge in that regard.
komos From: komos Date: April 30th, 2004 09:35 am (UTC) (Link)
That's exactly what I'm talking about. I feel like there's a lot of work ahead of me and when I see someone who makes it look effortless, it can either be discouraging or can remind me to get back to work... depending on my frame of mind.

At this moment, my inclination is to figure out a way to make the program at MassArt work.
clayrobeson From: clayrobeson Date: April 30th, 2004 10:15 am (UTC) (Link)
The step that helped me become a true improviser, like, one that could hold his own with anyone out there was to find the ability to let others' work INSPIRE me instead of INTIMIDATE me.

Not that you're feeling intimidated, but... it just seemed appropriate to share.
komos From: komos Date: May 3rd, 2004 05:07 am (UTC) (Link)
First step into a larger world?
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