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Anyone remember the quirks of the northern abolitionists?
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cosmicserpent From: cosmicserpent Date: April 14th, 2005 07:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
Given how homophobic the average sports fan tends to be (Remember Coco Crisp is a fag after all?), I just tend to doubt the statistics here because of the contradictory position.
komos From: komos Date: April 14th, 2005 07:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm wondering if PC conditioning might have come into play. The way the statement is worded - "it's OK, even if" - is a hedging question that would allow plenty of room for a "yeah, what the hell..." response. The others show much stronger language.
why_style From: why_style Date: April 14th, 2005 08:06 pm (UTC) (Link)
i agree with comsicerpent that the poll seems fishy, but if we are to take the results as accurate, then i'd say there's definitely some merit in what you say about PC conditioning and the wording of the question. it seems odd that so many would think it was okay while acknowledging that it would hurt the athlete's career/endorsements. it's almost like they're saying it's OK for them to play, but they better expect to hear me taunt and slur them if they do.
komos From: komos Date: April 14th, 2005 09:08 pm (UTC) (Link)
That's just it, though. It's "ok even if..." they're gay. Making that statement doesn't preclude the idea that they'll have difficulties being accepted by the fans or by other players, or that they'll be as marketable. A representative of the firm that conducted the poll indicated that there seemed to be an idea that people were fine with the idea of gay athletes, but when more specific questions were asked, they hedged a little more. "It was like, I'm O.K. with this, but if you press me, I have some doubts." (Yeah, not exactly biting analysis, but this is an SI poll we're talking about...)

The sentiment that the presence of an openly gay athlete would affect the performance of the team sounded remarkably like a similar argument concerning "unit cohesiveness" in the military.

why_style From: why_style Date: April 15th, 2005 01:27 pm (UTC) (Link)
can a gay athlete live in a ditch for a month- without infections?
komos From: komos Date: April 15th, 2005 02:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm not sure a straight athlete can live in a ditch for a month without infections. I would think that anyone living in a ditch for a month would, at the very least, have to worry about fungal infections (e.g. athlete's foot & jock itch). From there, it really depends on the conditions to which they're exposed, but common infections could include anything from rashes to respiratory ailments to various agents that cause g/i issues. So far as I know, infectious agents don't particularly care about one's sexual preferences.

Did I miss the point of your question?
why_style From: why_style Date: April 15th, 2005 02:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
it was a reference to newt gingrich's speech circa 1992 in which he said women shouldn't be allowed in the military because, unlike men, women couldn't live in a ditch for 30 days since "they get infections". your response triggered a nueron in my brain that made me think of it.
komos From: komos Date: April 15th, 2005 03:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
Heh. I had forgotten about that. Gingrich was always great for a painful laugh.
mittenstein From: mittenstein Date: April 14th, 2005 07:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
The average sports fan doesn't think twice about calling a black athlete on an opposing team any number of racial slurs, yet is eager to cheer when one of his team's black athletes performs well.
komos From: komos Date: April 14th, 2005 09:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
Whatever rock's handy, I guess.
komos From: komos Date: April 14th, 2005 09:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
Ah here... The results of the full poll are a great deal less anomolous than the handful of questions highlighted for the article.
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