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Iron Chef: Announcement
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From: aphorisic Date: February 26th, 2008 02:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
Total kneejerk non-judge reaction to someone trying to sneak in sour cream where it clearly says cream: "Go back to Chipotle."
komos From: komos Date: February 26th, 2008 03:06 pm (UTC) (Link)
And what about mascarpone? Or clotted cream?

Edited at 2008-02-26 03:07 pm (UTC)
bbbsg From: bbbsg Date: February 26th, 2008 03:15 pm (UTC) (Link)
if you personally made the mascarpone from the cream i could see that working... otherwise, bzzzt.
komos From: komos Date: February 26th, 2008 03:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
"Specific to this competition, I will say that cream in any of its forms should be acceptable."

I'm standing by this.

Sour cream is a dairy product rich in fats obtained by fermenting a regular cream by certain kinds of lactic acid bacteria.

Edited at 2008-02-26 03:21 pm (UTC)
bbbsg From: bbbsg Date: February 26th, 2008 03:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
i read that as heavy vs whipping vs light, but again, i'm not judging. i think you of course can stand by it, but the judges are going to have their own notions that are hard to disregard.
bbbsg From: bbbsg Date: February 26th, 2008 03:26 pm (UTC) (Link)
oh, i know. but in the regular Iron Chef you're much more likely to see someone try to _make_ sour cream or cheese and showcase that than you are to see them using it pre-made if the competition is cream. i think that is where the grumbling comes in wrt expectations.
komos From: komos Date: February 26th, 2008 03:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't think there's a distinction to be made. In beef battle, if someone had used air-dried beef that they had purchased to incorporate into their dish rather than taking the time to dessicate it themselves, I'm pretty sure no one would have balked. There may have been style points awarded to the person who showed up with their own cured bresaola, but do you really think any of the judges would have complained?

All the judges have access to this. If they have a problem with something other than light/heavy/whipping/half and half, they can weigh in at any time.
From: aphorisic Date: February 26th, 2008 03:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
You are the Chairman, of course. I'm just sayin' that if I were judging and someone slid a plate of nachos in front of me, I'd crucify them. But then again, how sad is it that sour cream, in my mind, is almost exclusively associated with crap Mexican food?
komos From: komos Date: February 26th, 2008 03:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
If someone drops a plate of nachos with sour cream and salsa in front of the judges, they deserve to be crucified for things other than the sour cream.
From: aphorisic Date: February 26th, 2008 03:38 pm (UTC) (Link)
What if they're Galaxy Nachos?
komos From: komos Date: February 26th, 2008 03:49 pm (UTC) (Link)
Listen, you...
From: theflatcat Date: February 26th, 2008 05:30 pm (UTC) (Link)

No pretenders, please

Things like mascarpone cheese, which are manufactured from a majority cream base, I would find acceptable. Cream cheese (think Philly), on the other hand, seems to be cream based but is made from milk (with the cream in solution) and would get a serious penalty.

Dishes should have an obvious cream component - for an ingredient that is not pure cream to count as your cream component it should have a majority cream base. Creme fraiche = cream. Creme anglaise = not cream.
komos From: komos Date: February 26th, 2008 05:59 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: No pretenders, please

Danke. That's pretty much what I was going for.
bbbsg From: bbbsg Date: February 26th, 2008 03:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
but hey, i am not a judge :)
komos From: komos Date: February 26th, 2008 03:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
Next go, and hopefully it will in the next few months.
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